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  2. Hence why I said "some people." Which the OIO would do jack all to prevent, and again, no one supporting it can show any results but they're all sure it's what is keeping the internet's lights on. So yeah.
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  4. In fact, Comcast has tried slowing down their services before to sell their faster internet packages. They’re dying to try something like this, and since going against regulations and hoping not to get caught ain’t the answer, getting rid of them one battle at a time is. Not to mention they got away with each of these shady practices each time with what for them may as well be a slap on the wrist while they made off like thieves. It’s only gonna get worse with less regulations to hang them up. edit: if you wanna claim that it doesn’t work fine but that doesn’t mean you get rid of the little protection you have, you either strengthen penalties or add more.
  5. As for smelling bullshit that really goes both ways. If your main reason for going against OIO now is that, it’s a poor one. Everyone to me sounds like they’re over exaggerating. Edit: would also point out most people nowadays do not just use their phones for texting and calling, for a lot of us they’re mini pcs nearly. I personally would not benefit from that at all.
  6. YouTube’s got nothing to do with me personally. I know they’ve got shady business practices but since the services I use from google are free I couldn’t personally care less.
  7. It works though, we all know by now that Balrog has a sixth sense for anime. He feels it in his bones.
  8. Look at how they are trying to de-monetize YouTube videos all the time. Like any company, they're out for their own advantage, and so much the better for them if they get to ride the backs of the ISPs and rake in more profits which they don't have to share because ISPs are "utilities" who can't charge them more for premium service. Which, on that subject- the Duke Energies and PG&E's of the world are some of the biggest rat bastards out there and like all government-forced monopolies, if they screw the consumer, there's no one to appeal to. Because only the big ISPs can afford the red tape that excessive regulation enforces, and the ISPs aren't allowed to charge big users like Netflix or Apple any more than they do the little guy. So who do you think pays for the equipment upgrades needed to handle their data hogging? Colonel and others are blaming the ISPs for their exorbitant rates, but this is part of the problem. Even if the doomsday scenario does come true and ISPs start slicing up the internet, you all are only assuming that this would lead to higher consumer costs and poor service. The article about someone not being able to reach a company website is very far-fetched. I mean, ISPs already charge extortionist prices for business internet in particular, but what benefit would ISPs gain from having basic internet services disabled for a large amount of people? That's just ridiculous, even if it weren't illegal anyway. And maybe tiered service would benefit some people. Like since I only use my cell phone for texting and the occasional phone call, I have Ting which charges tiered rates. My monthly cell phone bill is generally $15 or $20. Maybe one month a year when I go on vacation, it's $25 or $30. I had to buy a device, so I bought a used iPhone which has lasted 2 1/2 years and counting. I've probably saved over a thousand bucks because I refuse to pay for unlimited data when I don't need it. And I'm really glad I have that choice. People are cord cutting because it makes more sense for some to pay by channel than an expensive bundle they don't use. You (general you) are just assuming you'll pay more rather than the same or less. Anyway, it may sound like I'm against the OIO, but I wasn't really before. Now I am because what I'm really against is bullshit, and they're shoveling it hard on this one, so I smell a rat.
  9. It catches me so off guard when he does that.
  10. agreed. Probably pretty effective too And anyone can come up with some bullshit hypothetical on paper so I refuse to trust them myself.
  11. I think my favorite recent development is Witch using anime gifs to get Balrog to look at pms Speaking of, Czar, I’ll respond later today. Finishing up my last final today so after that I’ll be free to get some writing done that isn’t essay driven.
  12. I guess this comes down if you want to believe the ISPs' words or not. I wouldn't but that is up to each one of us. On another note: @BigBossBalrog
  13. No offense, but I'll take the smaller companies words on this over yours or anyone else's on here. And many of them were convinced enough that the regulations hurt their ability to enter the market that they made a point to oppose it. The only examples I've seen have been terrible in countries that nobody has ever compared to the US on any other major issue. They've all been terrible comparisons come across as serious reaching to me. So to each their own but I put more stock in the hypotheticals on paper that are actually geared towards us.
  14. I’ll still take that over hypotheticals on paper for something that will not benefit me. It’s also not the only example but I’m sure it won’t matter to anyone here not already convinced it ain’t fake news.
  15. It doesn't allow bigger tech companies to gain an upper hand on smaller companies. How would NN do that? As the ISPs can't discriminate against any data, everyone is playing on the same level when it comes to speed and access. While I'm not expert on ISP infrastructure, I'm pretty sure you must already have a big bag of money to build said infrastructure to start an ISP. In which case you should already be able to pay a lawyer to make sure you're abiding the regulations.
  16. It allows the big tech companies to gain position at the expense of smaller, and only large ISPs can navigate the red tape. Basically exactly what has been happening now, so if NN was intended to help the consumer, it's failing miserably.
  17. Guatemala is to surrounding Latin American countries what Republicans believe Mexico is to America. The economic and social climates are so drastically different between us that drawing comparisons is likely a pointless exercise.
  18. The law still protects them. We can get into a debate about the effectiveness of proactive versus reactionary, but big ISPs aren't allowed to throttle now any more than they were before. It was just decided that the 2015 package was much too overbearing and inserted the government into places where it didn't belong, so it was scrapped in favor of allowing the FTC to handle the situation instead of the FCC.
  19. I wasn’t even talking about Portugal personally, Guatemala for instance has people switching SIM cards because one offers free access to Facebook and another Twitter.
  20. I don't see how not being able to discriminate data favors big monopolies. It actually makes so big companies can't pay ISPs to throttle startup competitors or otherwise give themselves a major edge.
  21. This kind of regulation inherently favors big monopolies. No one else can navigate the red tape, which often is deliberate, because it's in service of the regulators' paymasters. I find it weird and silly that the FCC sticking its nose in supposedly leads to a 'free internet'. This is the agency who gave us Bell Telephone. There might not be an internet if the Department of Justice hadn't forced them to stop.
  22. Mine were mostly economics, business practice, administration, etc. so there was plenty to disagree over. But it was mostly healthy, in my opinion. The problem was in classes that the university made people take regardless of our majors. Those were terrible.
  23. So why repeal net neutrality instead of only the regulations against new ISPs and new technology? As BT points out NN protects smaller companies that are reliant on the internet.
  24. Net neutrality has basically been turned into a blanket term in the US referring the regulations that were put in place in 2015 involving internet openness and ISP autonomy. Among these regulations are the ones that have been preventing competing companies from effectively starting new ISPs or introducing any new technology.
  25. And at the end of the day, I agree with the idea that the internet is a utility and should be regulated as such. In this day and age it’s almost necessary to things like finding a job, running a business, etc. So if anything, I think the current net neutrality rules should be changed or amended, not totally repealed and done away with.
  26. You’re right about that. https://www.snopes.com/portugal-net-neutrality/ I think the general idea is the same, though, and while it’s not a totally accurate example, the idea that an ISP could cut up and package the internet is scary and something I’d like to avoid. As far as protecting small businesses go, I’m more worried about this stuff than up and coming ISPs.
  27. Not big just cities. Rural ISPs and up-and-comers are big proponents of this.
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