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I think I'm happy with where this is in game now Happy with the weights after messing around with the weights on the headgear for a while. I even used OS studio to make a first person mesh! Literally just put a mask on the arms and hands and deleted anything that wasn't masked! OS studio has been amazing. I have decided I AM going to take a creative liberty with this outfit though, I am going to make a band that goes around the wrists to cover the seams, it wont be a major difference to the reference. Will not take me long to make those (Literally going to be done in about 15 minutes). So now I move onto making Textures. Definitely my weakest point when it comes to Mod Creation. Wish me Luck.

My God. I think I love outfit studio. I was scared of it at first as I can with most new programs sometimes because I didnt really understand how it works but its actually really simple. It also makes this whole process so much easier, I literally leave OS open, adjust the weights export the NIF again with a new name (just running through test1,2,3 etc), I'm also keeping the CK open, I already have my mod open, just amend the model to the new test one, save, then re open the game and test! I already have a save where my character already has the armor I can do this all under 2 minutes (unless amending weights takes longer). I know I could technically just save over the old nif and not have to change in the CK to the new model but I'm slightly paranoid if I do that the effects wont work correctly so I'm happy to take the extra 30 seconds or so. Now that this is working and I know how to make it work this is SOOOOOOOOO much easier that it was in Skyrim, so much fiddling in Nifskope. I've not had to touch Nifskope since I got it all working in game. Its glorious.

I still cant figure out how to do spoiler tags. I'm sorry everyone. Its all working in game!! The textures are so wrong though using others as placeholders haha My biggest problem now is the weights on the headgear, they are screwey, I've messed around with it a bit and it dosnt seem to be the weights im thinking off but I can play more with it tomorrow. Only one other issue is a split in the seam between the wrist and the hand in first person, this seems unavoidable as this happens even with the base CBBE body as well. But I'm so happy its all in game! was beginning to think I wouldn't get here! Now just to fix weights and then make some proper textures. Thanks for all the support and help so far guys!

Well this has been a not so fun-but somewhat progress making and learning afternoon. So I began trying to get my whole suit in minus the gloves, so the suit, headgear and handles. did as I did before loaded into outfit studio and copied the weights. I've decided once I've then exported from from OS to load my NIF up in Nifskope quickly just to check and see if I get any errors, that way I dont waste my time fiddling with the CK and can Identify any problems earlier. Well I started getting an error again even though I did EXACTLY the same thing I did the other day when it worked, I started getting the first error I have above about an MD5 Hash comparison but thankfully no others. and Upon looking in the details of my Nif in Nifskope I had an extra line I didnt have before for NiStringExtraData. For the life of me couldn't work out what this was for. I tried deleting this and saving the Nif from nifskope. Crashes creation kit. Cue my rage. There was so much salt flying around. After calming down I tried the process numerous times making sure I did everything the same as the other day. Still didnt want to play. So I had one last ditch attempt at this, I deleted the added block of NiStringExtraData, saved my Nif from nifskope. Then RE imported as a Nif into OS did nothing else and then re exported as a nif. Tested in Nifskope and no errors. Things look promising as OS should of exported as a F4 ready Nif. Put into CK, CK does not crash. Looking better. Get into game and then test. IT WORKS! SCREW YOU NIFSKOPE AND YOUR ERRORS! And thanks to Vom's post above I had a texture in game to! Granted the texture didnt fit at all because it was for the vault suit and not my mesh but ya know. However, I need to do some adjustments back in blender. As Vom said, use an OBJ body as a reference in blender so that when in OS it all lines up, well this is my Blender with my finished mesh and the reference body I SHOULD of been using Sadly just rotating and scaling my Mesh down It dosnt quite fit, despite that body being exactly the same one I used to model my current mesh just much smaller and horizontal instead of vertical so I'm going to have to rotate and scale as close as I can and then make some adjustments, I need to do this is messing with some of the weights when copying as its not lining up 100%. But PROGRESS AND LEARNING TODAY! Im going out for a bit but fully intend to get back on this when I come back. My whole mesh WILL be fully weighted and in game by the end of the weekend (which is Monday for me) unless any more unforeseen errors come about.

Not sure how available I will be after work tomorrow, but Im then off Sunday and Monday I want to make a lot of progress this weekend hopefully! My preffered sort of work flow is get it all working in game so that I'm happy with it with weights etc using placeholder textures and then working on my textures so by the end of the weekend I hope to get it to the stage where I'm ready to move on to making my textures. Thanks again so much for your help Vom!

I DID IT! I mean some of my weights are screwed up and the textures didnt work. But I did it. No idea what happened with the textures, I applied a wet material, added the diffuse, normal and specular in nifskope (I just stole the vault suit ones for now) but at least it works, I can weight adjust so that shouldnt be too bad (he says considering weights can be some of the most fickle things going. Oh. Also I have no Shadow for some reason.

No worries! Thank you so much for the help so far, Honestly TES Alliance has been the only place I've ever been able to get help with modding, I've asked in other modding places like reddit and the nexus and either everyone doesnt know or they just dont seem to want to help. Except here! With my first mod for Skyrim Grond and Hainaisse where invaluable and helped me so much so I really do appreciate you taking the time to help. Also poking around in nifskope for a bit comparing my suit to the vault suit my suit does not seem to have bones attached to it correctly, BUT I think* I might know why that is. Thank you again! and I hope you feel better soon!

So I got it into Nifskope without breaking it! finally! Think I figured out what my issue was, I was using the wrong thing for weight copying and so it was screwing up the mesh which was then in turn breaking nifskope. Now, the CK does not want to have any of it, when I try to load into the outfit in the CK to create a new armor addon, it breaks the CK. Am I missing some settings in Nifskope that I'm meant to be setting? Its like every step of the process here wants to stop me!

I'm at work currently but can check when I get home in a few hours, pretty sure I'm using the most recent version. Is there any absolute must I shouldn or shouldn't be doing in blender before export? I've turned the mesh into tris but that's really the only must do thing I can think of.

I can get the armour into OS and weight it, or at least copy the weights Is it because I'm not assigning a texture in OS? That's the only thing I didn't do as I usually sort them in nifskope. But the errors kind of lead me to believe that it's an issue with my actual model?

Sorry Vom, I've been trying to go OBJ to outfit studio and this isnt working either however I am 100% sure its something im doing or have done wrong. I took a body through OS like you said so I can reference my outfit correctly in Blender (Required me to rotate it and then scale it down... a lot) Then exported from Blender as an OBJ with these settings I removed any weights I had previously set up and exported ONLY 1 thing no skeleton, I just tried the bodysuit itself without the add on bits. OS was a bit fiddly to get the weights copied from my target but I think I got there in the end, I was able to go down the bones list and it highlighted the weights on my bodysuit, I exported this as a NIF and wanted to open it up in Nifskope to see how that was and now I'm met with a flood of errors and my bodysuit does not show up in nifskope now errors I get are in this order - Sorry for the en masse of images I dont know if you are able to shed any light on this at all? Thanks so much for your help

Thank you again for the reply's, I will give this a try tomorrow night and hopefully it will work. I'm apprehensive about the weights as I KNOW I will need to do some manual weight adjusting especially with the headgear bit otherwise that is going to move all over the place and it shouldn't. On this note I have just realized I have not posted any pictures of my finished model have I, I have attached them if anyone wants to see them. I wanted to spoiler tag these so they dont take up a bunch of the page but for some reason I cannot figure out how to put spoiler tags in its in some really obvious place and I'm just looking over it arnt I?

Thanks for the response, I've been looking around and exporting from blender as an OBJ to Outfit studio seems to be the way to go, however I did try this and failed. When you export an outfit from blender as an obj do you export it with an attached skeleton? I understand in outfit studio I will need to do weights in there instead it seems but from what I've read you can copy weights like you can in blender? then export as nif and sort texture files etc out in nifskope? Thanks for your time and help Vometia!

Hi Guys, So I've weighted everything but I'm having trouble exporting this outfit from Blender, I'm using 2.79 with the Niftools add on (Which is currently in pre alpha but looking around it does not look like this has been worked on in AGES so not sure if it will ever get updated again) and when I try to export my outfit I get this error I have no idea what the issue is and I'm stumped, I remember running into this issue last time I tried to export but for the life of me I cannot remember how I got around this. I've seen some people say they export as an OBJ file instead and import the outfit into outfit studio and then export from there as a nif, but if I do this Outfit studio says my model is not weighted but it most certainly is. I'm completely lost, does anyone have any ideas at all?

Evening everyone, I'm back with a new PC! Took a bit longer than I anticipated to get a new one. Should be getting back on this train at the weekend.