True Statics

[DarkRider]

Hail Modders!

Is there an easy way to make a movable object, like a cup, into a static object that doesn't react to the game's havoc? Besides magic?

[WillieSea]

Making a static object.

1. Load NIF into Nifskope.

2. Open:

> NiNode

> bhkCollisionObject

3. In the "block Details" of bhkCollisionObject:

> Motion system ->change to MO_SYS_KEYFRAMED

> Quality Type --->change to MO_QUAL_FIXED

Object will now be motionless in the game.

[WindmillTilter]

Probably a good idea to change your Layer and Layer copy to OL_Static too.

WT

[DarkRider]

Thanks Mates, I'll try that!

[Vince]

WillieSea and WindmillTilter, didn't you mean the Block Details of the bhkRigidBody(T) rather than the bhkCollisionObject?

[WindmillTilter]

We like to make people work a little.

WT

[WillieSea]

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WillieSea and WindmillTilter, didn't you mean the Block Details of the bhkRigidBody(T) rather than the bhkCollisionObject?

No. All of the objects I have ever made static in oblivion were only changed with the instructions I gave. (two changes and thats it) Nothing else was changed and the objects never move in game or give errors.
Try it and see.

I have done this with armor, weapons, food and other misc items. It has never failed me.

[DarkRider]

Must depend on the mesh. This mesh had nothing in the Block Details window on the bhkCollisionObject, I only found the targets mentioned under bhkRigidBody. However, the rest of the instructions applied and worked like a charm! Thanks again, guys!

[WillieSea]

Really?

If you don't mind me asking, what object was it?

[DarkRider]

It was the pearl gem object, I needed a static version that wouldn't bounce all over the place!

[WillieSea]

Perhaps I was unclear.

The 'bhkRigidBody' is in the block details of the 'bhkCollisionObject', sort of like I said. I just did not specify the 'bhkRigidBody'.

I followed this method so much that I clicked on 'bhkRigidBody' without even thinking about it.

Glad you got it working right. I will update my document.

[WindmillTilter]

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No. All of the objects I have ever made static in oblivion were only changed with the instructions I gave. (two changes and thats it) Nothing else was changed and the objects never move in game or give errors.Try it and see.I have done this with armor, weapons, food and other misc items. It has never failed me.

I'm sure your right switching the motion settings to static should stop the object from moving. I like to keep things neat and tidy though, so if I'm switching to Static havok I always change all 3. I'm also not sure what else may be affected by the layer setting so better safe than sorry.

WT

[Vince]

WT, if you want to keep things neat and tidy, maybe you should also change the BSXFlags flag from 3 to 2.

[WindmillTilter]

Yeah I also change name of the root node and NiTriStrips (StaticInkwell, etc.) but then I'm kind of weird.

Since we've completely derailed DR's thread already I had a couple of questions about BSX flags. Since changing the motion settings to Anim but leaving the layer at Static doesn't work reliably, I assumed that setting the layer to Anim caused the engine to pay more attention and might have a performance hit. Do you think leaving the animation bit enabled on the BSX flags might have the same effect?

Have you ever experimented with using them in subnodes? I've alway assumed you can't since none of the Beth NIFs do, but I've never tested the theory. For example having a setting of 2 in the root node of a largely static NIF, but adding a second BSX flags set to 3 in a subnode that contains animation.

WT