Build or Buy AMD based version

[donnato]

Ok...I`ve become intriguied by some AMD based chat... particularly Arion`s rig running at 4.2GHz natively. This would stop the need to OC my Intel CPU ...ergo...less stress. What I`d like to do is to spec out an AMD based build from the mobo up. Any ideas..?

EDIT: As per Arion`s posting...Let`s start with this..>> Linky

Edited January 11, 2013 by donnato

[Arion]

As you requested, here are the specs for my system based on that processor and manufacturer's recommendations for compatibility of the individual compontents.

Motherboard - $95.00 - newer version of my current MB with USB 3.0 connections on board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873

CPU - $120.00 Same as listed in your request

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106009&Tpk=FX-4170

8 core version - $200.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

Memory - $50.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

You can also get this memory in a 16 gig set or the MB can use faster memory (I used the above for price) Highly recommend if you use faster memory that you look at Corsair and ASUS' specs for what brands and model numbers are compatible.

As for power supply I run a Corsair 550 based on what my video card's minimum recommendations are and the limitations imposed by my battery backup unit. Depending on your video cards' needs, my advice is take what the video card recommends and add 100 or 200 watts for overhead.

For $265.00 this fit my budget as well as it was more computer than I need and I don't expect to have to upgrade for a few years. Your mileage may vary depending on your needs.

Edited January 12, 2013 by Arion

[donnato]

Oh heck yeah...asus mobo supports 32G ram..love that...Corsair = winner for ram...CPU I`d already looked at and like... What about Power supply..?

[DaMage]

I will just point out, that reason they seem to run faster and are so much cheaper then intel's i5/i7, is because unlike the Intel CPUs, they have only 4 threads instead of 8.

Just thought I'd point that out, though those AMDs do blow the Intel chips of the same price out of the water.

[_echo]

Keep in mind, 4.2GHz AMD is not the same as 4.2GHz Intel.

AMDs tend to run "faster" then intel, but that isnt necessarily better.

I will also mention that going with an i5 will get you more bang for your buck.

[Arion]

I'm sorry but I was unaware that this was to be a what's better processor thread when I was specifically asked personally to spec out a system based on the CPU that I have and I listed my specs.

[grond]

Ok...I`ve become intriguied by some AMD based chat... particularly Arion`s rig running at 4.2GHz natively. This would stop the need to OC my Intel CPU ...ergo...less stress. What I`d like to do is to spec out an AMD based build from the mobo up. Any ideas..?

EDIT: As per Arion`s posting...Let`s start with this..>> Linky

OK kids, before we take it outside, let's remember this thread is in a Public Forum. No one asked anyone to personally set up a good computer system, as the original post indicates; that's what Private Messages or chat is for.

And AMD is the brand we're talking about here. Now back to the discussion.

[ibleedmonster]

ok so, heres the thing, theres the bulldozer core and piledriver, and they are not the same, thats a bulldozer core and i would not get it, the piledriver is redesigned and runs better and is the new supported architechture.

my fx6300 was 139, so for another 20$ you can get a 6core proc its native is 3.5 but turbos to 4.1 again this is a piledriver not a bulldozer, this is the newer vishira chipset.

my current rig and specs

FX-6300 vishira 3.5ghz/4.1ghz OC'ed to 4.5ghz no turbo ... 139$

MSI-970a-G46 revision 2 ... <rev 1 had vrm issues> ... 69$

MSI-R7850 twin frozr 2 2gig OC'ed 1050@core and 1450@RAM... 209$

G.Skill sniper XMP DDR3 8gigs @ 2250mhz ... 45$

Corsair H-60 for CPU ... 69.99

Antec 300 case w/stock fans ... 54$

120mm green LED fans 3pak cost ... 11$

thermaltake 750w PSU ... 65$

artic MX4 thermal paste ... 5$

end results are verified in my siggy via cpuz

important footnote, when buying mobo get southbridge 950 for max performance of your parts and compatibility aswell as features for everything, in addition 850 and higher southbridge allow AMD cpus to use intel's XMP memory timings...

all in all add the hardrive thats a pretty sweet rig for 700$

graphics card can be better for 20$ btw 7850 OC edition and 7870 are slightly better cards @219 and 229 respectively

Edited January 11, 2013 by ibleedmonster

[ibleedmonster]

also not typical of me but i wanted to wave this link around like a bloody scalp for the intel guys with thier 3750's and such

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/amd-fx-6300-1117533/review

ill be going for 5.1ghz at some point.

Edited January 12, 2013 by ibleedmonster

[DaMage]

I'd say avoid Bulldozer, that architecture is the reason AMD has been trumped in the past few years, piledriver looks much more promising, but it's newer and a bit more expansive.

at the below $200 price-range Intel and AMD seem to be pretty evenly matched, quad cores with 4 threads, though the AMD chips seem to have more speed, but that comes at the cost of the Bulldozer not handling the cores as well as Intel.

I still feel with that, you'll get plenty enough performance for any kind of gaming you want to do, as very few games can properly take advantage of extra cores.

[donnato]

Ok well...thanks folks. I think I`ve got what I need. I`m not looking to replace my intel rig but as an addition and possibly dedicated platform.

[ibleedmonster]

as a project you might consider tricking out an A-10 APU, they have a radeon 7660 embedded, you could easily make an extreamly powerful lan box for portability?

[ibleedmonster]

4.95GHZ from FX6300... click my sig badge for details... @36c btw.. these chips max is 60c

[donnato]

Monster, thats a cool spec. thanks..

Edited January 12, 2013 by donnato

[ibleedmonster]

i apologize, just showing that a "cheap" cpu can perform vastly differently when they are designed for it. certainly meant no offense

[donnato]

Monster...refresh...I edited my comment.