Good SSD for improving load times?

[HeyYou]

NTDLL.DLL is a system file, has nothing to do with video drivers. What errors are you getting?

[oldladyonthemoon]

34 minutes ago, HeyYou said:

NTDLL.DLL is a system file, has nothing to do with video drivers. What errors are you getting?

I know but some people say that this kind of error can occur if drivers are not up to date, or not adequate. That kind of thing.

As for the error messages, there are all of that type:

Application: Faulting application name: SkyrimSE.exe, version : 1.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x5a0db71d
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version : 6.1.7601.24000, time stamp: 0x5a499ad2
Exception code: 0xc0000374
Fault offset: 0x00000000000bf6b2
Faulting process id: 0x17d8
Faulting application start time: 0x01d39990b47950d2
Faulting application path: D:\Programmes\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\SkyrimSE.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
Report Id: bcb1bb92-0590-11e8-bcea-d8cb8af177f8

The first of these messages dates back to the 22/02/2017; the Exception code is the same (Exception code: : 0xc0000374). Apparently, this exception code indicates a "heap corruption". I've found this about heap corruptions but I don't understand any of it: https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1081496&seqNum=2

I get this problem with Skyrim SE only, Skyrim original works perfectly.

I would be very grateful if anyone could help me with that. I'm thinking of contacting Bethesda support; I'm still hesitating though.

[HeyYou]

Is SKSE available for Second addition yet? If so, it wouldn't hurt to run it, as it has a 'fix' for beths crummy memory management. (which that error relates to....)

Do you get the error with any other programs?

[oldladyonthemoon]

7 hours ago, HeyYou said:

Is SKSE available for Second addition yet? If so, it wouldn't hurt to run it, as it has a 'fix' for beths crummy memory management. (which that error relates to....)

Do you get the error with any other programs?

I never used skse and never will. Like I said, this happens with Skyrim SE only, of all the software I'm using.

[Leonardo]

12 hours ago, HeyYou said:

Is SKSE available for Second addition yet?

It's available, but only as an alpha.

http://skse.silverlock.org/

[Leonardo]

19 hours ago, ladyonthemoon said:

I know but some people say that this kind of error can occur if drivers are not up to date, or not adequate.

HeyYou is right the ntdll.dll is related to Windows and I know what the 'nt' mean.  The .dll file extension stands for dynamic-link library.

It means NewTechnology and that's why Microsoft's Windows NT has the NTFS file system (64-bit?).

So I suggest that you check the system files for Windows, I assume you are using Windows 7, just to see the ntdll.dll file is added or you could manually copy the ntdll.dll file yourself from the Windows 7 disc.

Edited January 31, 2018 by Leonardo

[oldladyonthemoon]

19 minutes ago, Leonardo said:

HeyYou is right the ntdll.dll is related to Windows and I know what the 'nt' mean.  The .dll file extension stands for dynamic-link library.

It means NewTechnology and that's why Microsoft's Windows NT has the NTFS file system (64-bit?).

So I suggest that you check the system files for Windows, I assume you are using Windows 7, just to see the ntdll.dll file is added or you could manually copy the ntdll.dll file yourself from the Windows 7 disc.

I know what dll stands for and ntdll.dll is where it should be already. The system file is okay.

I loaded Skyrim SE this morning with only one mod, small with a handful of scripts, meshes and textures and the error didn't occur on quitting.

I then played with all the mods I'm generally using and the error occurred.

To finish with, I just loaded a completely un-modded save after removing all my mods from the Data directory and the error occurred.

But we're digressing. Sorry.

[HeyYou]

I might be tempted to run memtest for a few passes..... just to eliminate RAM as a possible failure point.

[oldladyonthemoon]

1 hour ago, HeyYou said:

I might be tempted to run memtest for a few passes..... just to eliminate RAM as a possible failure point.

So, I'm going to do although I don't see why it would be a problem with the memory since this computer is fairly new (bought last February) and Skyrim SE is the only software that have this problem.

Edit: memtest done: no problem in sight.

Edited January 31, 2018 by ladyonthemoon

[Leonardo]

3 hours ago, ladyonthemoon said:

I loaded Skyrim SE this morning with only one mod, small with a handful of scripts, meshes and textures and the error didn't occur on quitting.

I then played with all the mods I'm generally using and the error occurred.

To finish with, I just loaded a completely un-modded save after removing all my mods from the Data directory and the error occurred.

I think you need to install one mod at the time just see what mod is causing SSE to CTD on startup.

Should you be able to find the mod then report to the original author or fix it yourself, if you made that mod.  Or you could stop use that mod.

3 hours ago, ladyonthemoon said:

But we're digressing. Sorry.

Well as long HeyYou allows us to discuss it then worry.

6 minutes ago, ladyonthemoon said:

So, I'm going to do although I don't see why it would be a problem with the memory since this computer is fairly new (bought last February) and Skyrim SE is the only software that have this problem.

It's always a good idea to do such a thing, because how would you know if there is an error in the installed RAM or not.

[oldladyonthemoon]

21 minutes ago, Leonardo said:

It's always a good idea to do such a thing, because how would you know if there is an error in the installed RAM or not.

I edited my post. The memory test didn't find any problem.

 

22 minutes ago, Leonardo said:

I think you need to install one mod at the time just see what mod is causing SSE to CTD on startup.

Should you be able to find the mod then report to the original author or fix it yourself, if you made that mod.  Or you could stop use that mod.

The problem occurs on quitting the game and it happens whether I have mods installed or not...

[Leonardo]

1 hour ago, ladyonthemoon said:

The problem occurs on quitting the game and it happens whether I have mods installed or not...

Perhaps there isn't enough of free diskspace left for Windows virtual memory swap file.

[HeyYou]

Run system file checker.

From an 'elevated' command prompt, type in "sfc /scannow" without the quotes.

[oldladyonthemoon]

55 minutes ago, HeyYou said:

Run system file checker.

From an 'elevated' command prompt, type in "sfc /scannow" without the quotes.

I prefer using verifyonly first. I ran checkdisk, nothing wrong; I ran memtest, nothing wrong. And I can write right now what will be the result of verifyonly: nothing wrong.

Edit: Here you go!

Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tous droits réservés.

C:\Windows\system32>sfc /verifyonly

Début de l'analyse du système. Cette opération peut nécessiter un certain temps.


Démarrage de la phase de vérification de l'analyse du système.
La vérification 100% est terminée.

Le programme de protection des ressources Windows n'a trouvé aucune violation d'
intégrité.

C:\Windows\system32>

 

Edited January 31, 2018 by ladyonthemoon

[Leonardo]

Eh, I don't know French and have no idea what your status report means.  Perhaps translate it to English.

[oldladyonthemoon]

33 minutes ago, Leonardo said:

Eh, I don't know French and have no idea what your status report means.  Perhaps translate it to English.

Sorry! It says this

except that I ran sfc /verifyonly instead of scannow.

I also ran sfc /scannow with the same results.

[HeyYou]

Interesting. Wonder what SE is trying to do that annoys windows so much.

[Leonardo]

Yes, it is interesting.  Perhaps there is a setting in either Skyrim.ini or in SkyrimPrefs.ini that Windows doesn't like.

Or could it be just that ladyonthemoon has SSE installed on a SSD and somehow Windows cannot cope with that.

[oldladyonthemoon]

Just now, Leonardo said:

Or could it be just that ladyonthemoon has SSE installed on a SSD and somehow Windows cannot cope with that.

It used to be but I've reinstalled it on the built-in SATA drive. All the tests I've mentioned lately were made after that new installation.

[Leonardo]

Have you tried to launch SSE without mods, just to see if you were able to start a new game (I know how boring it's to start a new vanilla game )?

[oldladyonthemoon]

1 minute ago, Leonardo said:

Have you tried to launch SSE without mods, just to see if you were able to start a new game (I know how boring it's to start a new vanilla game )?

Yes, I did that and once it did quit normally but when I did it again, I got the error.

I'm going to file a report to Bethesda about that.

[Leonardo]

How much free diskspace do you have left on your SSD?

[oldladyonthemoon]

Just now, Leonardo said:

How much free diskspace do you have left on your SSD?

877 gB.

[Leonardo]

You have that much!  Well, I'm out of ideas.

[oldladyonthemoon]

1 minute ago, Leonardo said:

You have that much!  Well, I'm out of ideas.

Wait, the free space is on the SATA; the free space on the SSD is 58.2 gB. Anyway, we've looked everywhere I think. Thanks!