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Tigersong

[MW] Places, please

This topic would be in the Morrowind forum, but you know. A bit of background...

 

Last night I decided to improve one of the splash screens I'd made. The idea is to place the Tribunal emblem behind the logo. (I mean, the "hand" symbol behind the name "Tribunal".) Here's where the problem begins.

 

My splash screen and the symbol are in two different files. How do I paste the symbol and position it to achieve the desired effect? Should everything be on the same layer, or what?

 

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It's best to use two layers. If you're using Gimp, load up one of them then import the other as a layer with File->Open as Layers...

 

You can move the layers up or down if the wrong one is on top.

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How do I get rid of the black-and-yellow lines so I can move only what I want to move?

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The black and yellow lines are the border of the imported layer. You can move it around with the Move tool - the tool with an icon that looks like a cross. Click and hold down the left mouse button on the layer to grab it and then just move it around.

 

Edit: When you have it in place you can then resize it to the image size with Layer->Layer to Image Size.

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Still unsure as to how the symbol goes behind the logo. If it helps, I'll post a picture.

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In one of the docked windows there is a Layers dialog with a list of all the layers in the project. If you select the top one you can drag it below the other one. You can also use the arrows at the bottom of the dialog.

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In that pic you posted the layers list is on the right. If you select the "tribunal.png" in the list and drag it under "trb_1.tga" that will move it behind. However, because the logo layer doesn't have a transparent background it will just obscure the crest.

 

That means that you'll have to make a third layer with only the logo and no background and move it above the crest layer so that you have the following setup:

 

Logo layer

Crest Layer

Background layer

 

If you want to do that then you can make a duplicate of the background layer and move it to the top of the order and then remove all the background from the duplicate. You'll need to add an alpha channel if it hasn't got one (Layer->Transparency->Add Alpha Channel).

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Now we're getting somewhere! How do I select only the background, or only the logo?

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This is a bit more advanced stuff.

If I was doing it I'd duplicate that layer a third time, desaturate it and play with the levels until there was a good contrast between the background and logo. Then I would use the Fuzzy Select Tool (wand) to select the background. Then, going back to layer 3, and delete the background. I don't know how well that would work though in this case because I can't try it.

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But you can. Wait one moment and I'll link you to the resource file. (The Tribunal emblem, along with one for Bloodmoon and another for Morrowind, is in "triangles".) Here you go.

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Ok, it turns out that you already had separate files for the background already, so what I suggested before is unnecessary. So as I said in the shouty, import the background, logo and crest and order them accordingly

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What do you mean, import? If it's something different from "open as layers", please say so.

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No it's the same thing. That's what I meant =)

 

 

Here's how I did it. Notice the layer order on the right.

 

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You'll get there, tigersong =) Hang in there.

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Is there a way pasting only part of an image in a new layer? If so, that would mean no more cutting up the logos and triangles into separate files.

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