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LAME and SM compatibility


LukasDF91
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Hi all! Sorry for ask help about this, I know that is totally possible to find my answer looking in some old threads(maybe very old lol) but the search engines didn't helped me...
So, I'm trying to put LAME and SM together with SM loading after LAME, the problem is that I don't know which plugins(.esp) of each overhaul should I install to make the magic strong enough for a modded Oblivion with FCOM+MOO(hard settings) and the right load order for them because was having CTD with this magic mods loaded, I've attached 2 screenshots with the plugins of both overhauls. Thanks for the help :)

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No, there wasn't any missing master, it was the latest OR version that made my game crash, also I figured it out which plugins shouldn't load between LAME and SM and fixed some purple hands too, but now I'm having issues when loading games "in-game", and I know that this is caused for loading errors or compatibility issues between my mods so I'll put my load order, I'm running BOSS for the load order but still... Hopes someone can help me with this :)

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Jog_X_Mod.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.37]
03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
05  Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.74]
07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.5.5]
08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
09  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0A  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
0B  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
0C  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.8]
0D  CURP_Controller.esm
0E  NNWAEMaster.esm
0F  cssBase.esm  [Version 1.1]
10  CM Partners.esm
11  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
12  CustomSpellIcons.esm
13  ScreenEffects.esm
14  Knights - Revelation.esm
15  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
16  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.5]
17  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
18  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
19  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
1A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
1B  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.5]
1C  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]
1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
1F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
20  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
21  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  LoadingScreens.esp
**  LoadingScreensSI.esp
22  AliveWaters_nofish.esp
23  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
24  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
++  ClocksOfCyrodiil - ChorrolTextureChange.esp
25  ImprovedSigns.esp
26  Morrowind Ingredients.esp  [Version 1.6]
27  PTFallingStars.esp
28  QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp
29  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]
2A  Reznod_Mannequin.esp
2B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
2C  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
2D  OblivionReloaded.esp
2E  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
2F  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
30  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
31  DLCHorseArmor.esp
32  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
33  DLCOrrery.esp
34  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
35  DLCVileLair.esp
36  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
37  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
38  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
39  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
**  Book Jackets DLC.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
3A  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
3B  RGMsRealFlails.esp  [Version 1.1]
3C  Slof's Horses HA Essential.esp
3D  DLCThievesDen.esp
3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.15]
3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
40  BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
41  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.37]
42  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.37]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
43  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
44  Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.5]
45  Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp
46  Immersive Interiors - Bruma Guild Reconstructed.esp  [Version 1.0]
47  Storms & Sound.esp
48  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.37]
49  WindowLightingSystem.esp
4A  BrumasNorthernLights.esp
4B  ExnemRuneskulls.esp
++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
4C  Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
++  FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
4D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
4E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Patch - Hunger Tongue.esp
4F  Cobl Patch - Silent Misc Item Equip.esp  [Version 01]
50  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
51  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
52  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
53  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
54  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
55  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.5.5]
56  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
++  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
57  RealitySpectreStars2HeavenBetterPotionsOOOEffects.esp
58  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
59  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
5A  FCOM_OscurosOverhaul.esp  [Version 0.9.8]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderHardcore.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
5B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]
5C  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
5D  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
5E  CurseOfHircine.esp
5F  CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp
60  Curse of Hircine - Werewolf Hunters.esp
61  CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp
62  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
63  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
64  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
65  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
66  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
67  Mart's Monster Mod - Curse of Hircine.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
68  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
69  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
6A  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
6B  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Divserse Wisp and VASE Addon.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 3.7b7]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
6C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
6D  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
6E  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
6F  FCOM_NewItemsTemplate.esp  [Version 0.9.4]
++  Cobl Patch - MMM Gems and Gem Dust.esp
++  Cobl Tweaks - FCOM Mergeable.esp  [Version 1.72]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
**  Fransfemale.esp
70  Tamrielic_Ingredients.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
71  00RBScribeSupplies02, read summary.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
72  Better Abandoned House.esp  [Version 2.01]
73  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp  [Version 3.41-Cobl]
74  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
75  Fighters Guild Quests.esp
76  ICEXPAND.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
77  Jason1_Pirate Ship.esp
78  JolardHome.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
79  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
7A  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
7B  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
7C  RoadLights.esp
7D  Mages Guild Quests.esp
7E  NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp  [Version 2.2b]
7F  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp
80  NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp
81  Sheogoraths_Accords_of_Madness.esp
82  thievery.esp
83  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]
84  Valenwood Improved.esp  [Version 1.02.0]
85  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
86  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
87  Valenwood Improved Vampire Hunting Patch.esp
88  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
89  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
8A  Apachii Goddess Store - Cloth Nails.esp
8B  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
8C  Zira's Clydesdale Horses.esp
8D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
8E  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
8F  DLCFrostcrag.esp
90  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
91  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.7]
92  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
93  Knights.esp
94  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
95  Knights - Revelation.esp
96  Oblivion Uncut.esp
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
97  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.1]
**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
98  Fall of the Ayleids.esp  [Version 4.1]
99  RTT.esp
9A  Mighty Umbra.esp
9B  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]
9C  The Lost Spires.esp
9D  OLDArchfiend.esp
9E  Xkavars Deep Remade.esp
9F  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 7.3]
A0  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
A1  FCOM_OMG.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
A2  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
A3  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  EDI - Aggression Fix.esp
A4  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
++  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.2]
A5  ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp
A6  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
A7  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]
A8  ROC+Fighters Guild Quests.esp
A9  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]
AA  BlackwoodJungleCombined.esp
++  Trees Overhaul.esp
AB  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 2]
AC  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 2]
AD  Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
AE  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 2]
AF  Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
B0  ValenwoodIslands.esp
B1  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
**  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - Slofs Horses - By Xtudo.esp
B2  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
B3  LostSpiresImpeREALFortsPatch2.esp
B4  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
B5  DLCFrostcrag Reborn - Frostcrag Village Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.7]
B6  Better Cities - House Price Patch.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
B7  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
B8  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp
B9  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 6.3.2]
BA  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
**  Grass Overhaul.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
++  ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp
BB  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
++  Borderless Cyrodiil-3578.esp
BC  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
BD  BIE.esp  [Version 1.25]
BE  MidasSpells.esp
BF  MidasMagicCompanions.esp
C0  FrostcragMidasLab.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 88]
++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 88]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 88]
**  MOBSification of MODS.esp
C1  CM Partners.esp
C2  Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp
C3  eyja.esp
C4  Synx.esp
C5  TSS Custom Companion  Template.esp
C6  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
C7  not_recruit_companions.esp
C8  cssMerged12Sets.esp  [Version 1.1]
C9  cssJeremiah.esp  [Version 1.2]
CA  cssJaKhaiitMyr.esp  [Version 1.2]
CB  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
CC  Companion Neeshka.esp
CD  Rhianna.esp
CE  SnowAndHarukoCMPartners.esp
CF  Sonia.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Undead Rise Fix.esp
D0  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
D1  [SR] Khats & Args.esp
++  cidnothump.esp
D2  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
D3  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
D4  Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
D5  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
D6  Palace Improvement.esp
D7  All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp
D8  Better Abandoned House - BC_OBC Patch.esp  [Version 2.01-BC6.07-Full]
D9  Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
DA  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
DB  Better Cities Skingrad - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
DC  Better Cities IC Imperial Isle - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
DD  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
DE  RTT_Unofficial_Patch.esp
DF  Better Cities Anvil Open - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E0  Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
E1  Better Cities - Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E2  Better Cities Full - OOO.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
E3  Better Imperial City - OOO.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
++  Better Cities - Storms & Sound.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E4  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E5  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E6  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
E7  Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E8  Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
++  FCOM_BetterCities-Bravil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
++  Initial Glow Redux.esp
++  Initial Glow Redux - Creatures.esp
E9  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
EA  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
EB  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
EC  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
ED  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
EE  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
EF  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]
++  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.5]
F0  FearsomeMagicka.esp
F1  UVIII.esp
F2  Falling Leaves.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  ROC Standard Road Record.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.37]
F3  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F4  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 4.9.1]
F5  FormID Finder4.esp


 

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Holy smokes......

Cyrodiil Upgrade stuff? Where did you find Giskards mods? I thought those had long ago fallen by the wayside....... In any event, due to his philosophy on modding, trying to get his overhauls to play nice with other overhauls, is pretty much a non-starter. Cleaning his mods, (something he objects to, STRENUOUSLY) *might* help, then again, it might make things worse......

I don't think you are going to be able to get Gis's stuff to play nice with FCOM.......

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I fixed a lot of issues this days, Alenet uploaded 2 new versions of OR with CTD fixes and I found that ScreenEffects Reborn doesn't work with OR anymore. Now I'm installing mods again, and for now everything is working... Btw do you know a good finished mod like Fearsome Magicka or Alternative Oblivion Magic System(this thing isn't finished) that I can install for a hard modded Oblivion with FCOM+MOO? Compatible with Midas, LAME and SM ofc...

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I didn't do much with overhauls for Magic in Oblivion, I did, however, use Advanced Magecraft. It added quite a bit of functionality, but, was still missing a few pieces, so I offered to help the author..... :) (yep, I am co-author on it now, and have pretty much taken over support for it.) It works REALLY well,  does a LOT of neat tricks..... (can make you seriously overpowered if you mis-use it.....) and appears to be pretty much bug-free at this point. (I haven't gotten a bug report in several years.) has some requirements though, so, make sure you get those too.

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