[REQz] Custom Collision Boxes

[DsoS]

Wondering if i could get someone to create me a few custom collision boxes.

I use grid snap set to 32

Pieces needed:

Straight (like a normal hallway)

Dead end

3-way

4-way

Turn (corner)

They need a floor, but ceiling is not necessary

I'd like to be able to snap them together like normal hall pieces or room pieces.

The sides (walls) need to be high enough so players can't jump over them, and to allow over sized NPC's to walk them

Example of the Wall height, and width for all pieces:

EDIT:

They need to be able to be walked on.

Edited September 24, 2010 by DsoS

[DsoS]

actually hold up on this for a bit, I think I've found another way. Not sure though so I'm going to try it quickly.

[DsoS]

okay my idea worked. but its still a bit awkward though, so I would like to still get those pieces created if possible, thank you.

[WindmillTilter]

You could create those pieces completely in NifScope without any modelling software. If you're so inclined let me know and I'll type you up a walkthrough on how to do it. It's always better to know how to fish.

WT

[Lady_Nerevar]

My problem with collision boxes is that you can't actually see where the collision falls. Do you happen to know how to create the material/texture that disappears in game, like Xmarkers and subspaces use?

[Vince]

My problem with collision boxes is that you can't actually see where the collision falls. Do you happen to know how to create the material/texture that disappears in game, like Xmarkers and subspaces use?

I'm afraid I don't understand. If you create them in Blender you can certainly see them. If you turn on View Havok, you can see them in NifSkope. There's also a function key (I don't remember which) that makes them visible in the CS.

Maybe you could explain a bit more.

[washington]

There's also a function key (I don't remember which) that makes them visible in the CS.

F4 iirc.

[Lady_Nerevar]

Yea, I wasn't being very clear. See how the collision box is just a box framed with yellow? You can't see where its sides are on the inside, since they are transparent. For instance, I was using collision boxes as doors, and it was hard to make sure that the door marker was not located inside the box. What I'd like to create is something like the subspace boxes, that are completely shaded all around, so I could tell where exactly the collision starts/ends.

[Vince]

Lady_Nerevar, I understand. I thought you were using regular havok shapes created in a modeling program like Blender or in NifSkope. I understand now that you are using the Yellow box like "collision boxes" from the CS as shown in the OP. I can't help you there.

[washington]

In my CS, subspace is just blue wire. Is there a way to toggle that from wire to shaded and vice versa?

[Lady_Nerevar]

View>Solid Subspaces

The invisible but colored material is also used on all the markers.

[WindmillTilter]

My problem with collision boxes is that you can't actually see where the collision falls. Do you happen to know how to create the material/texture that disappears in game, like Xmarkers and subspaces use?

It's really easy if you use modelling software at all. You need a shape that has no texture UVSet applied, place it in it's own NiNode named "EditorMarker", and add 32 to your BSX flags (tells it there's an editor marker in the NIF). You can control the colour of your "editor marker" shape with the Material settings.

If you don't use modelling software you might be able to get it to work just stripping the texture data from an existing NiTriStrips, but I have a vague recolection it doesn't work if It has UVMapping applied. Of course you could probably still just set "Num UV Sets" to 0 in your NiTriStripsData block, but I haven't tried it.

WT

[Lady_Nerevar]

Thanks! I use max and I'll try it out tomorrow.

[Artisanix]

eeeeesy...

I've made one just before a while...

it looks like this

and you can download it here

Edited September 29, 2010 by Trollf

[DsoS]

ah cool

that should work nicely

Thank you

[Arthmoor]

I hope this doesn't come across as rude, but isn't it already fairly obvious that the collision boundary on a yellow collision box is on the outside of the frame?

[Lady_Nerevar]

Yep, however, its impossible to tell where the boundary is inside the frame (between the yellow lines). Its especially a problem when you're scaling the boxes up.

Trolf: works perfectly, thanks a bunch

[Arthmoor]

I guess I'm not seeing the point. Why does the inner boundary matter when it's the outer boundary that the player and any havok objects will be interacting with?

[Lady_Nerevar]

The collision is a continuous box around the outside of the model, yes. However, only the outer edges are shaded, which means that I can only tell where the collision ends/begins around the outer edges. When scaling the box to be the size of a cell, I can't tell whether my objects are placed inside or outside the collision. See how the collision box overlaps the crate in this screenshot? Without the tinted sides, it would be hard to determine where the box (and hence collision) stops.

Here is another diagram:

Yea, its probably not useful for most people, but its something that has come in handy for me.