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TnA: a question about the skimpyness in skyrim.

something that has always perplexed me about skyrim and some of the most popular mods that everyone seems to use is, whats with the emphasis on making your toon have the skimpiest clothing or armor available, the perfect bewbs and the roundest buttocks. like am i suffering from some sort of metal illness or am i missing something here? 

 

so please share why do you use the armor/body mods that you do and, please keep it clean pg-13 after all.

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It might have something to do with the target demographic being 14 year old boys.

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A lot of people think that the average gamer is a teenager. This isn't true, what is true is that the average gamer is really more like 25-40 and above. As we're the ones who grew up with Atari and Nintendo and our game tastes have matured. Now it's also cultural thing too, here in the US anything of explicit/adult theme is taboo(given our puritan roots and foundation) so as such we somehow for some odd reason get excited seeing it. Europe however sees nudity of humans as well, nothing really, it's part of their culture and art, as some of the masterpieces have the nude human body.

 

So the American audience(I'm guilty of liking -some- skimpy armors not all but some more inline for the classic fantasy style though I enjoy more plausible yet still "aesthetically appeasing) is thought of as immature 14 year old boys. It's also why you see a ton of some very attractive armor mods where it emphasizes the female form while not exploiting it or making it trashy.

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It's because of a few reasons.

 

The first reason is because hollywood and the video gaming industry LOVE just enough TNA to get males' interest since we are highly visual creatures. A flash of something attractive will keep our attention longer. This brings me into the next...

 

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The most prominent and easily deduced reason is because most men, including myself, have perversion issues. Hell I've caught myself lusting after or being turned on by scantily clad video game characters before just as I have to pornography or that fit girl who's wearing yoga pants and a tight top. Some have it to the point where they think stripping a female character down to lingerie levels and having her run around the countryside in their "armor" is normal behavior. The misogyny and the cognitive dissonance inherent in this is kind of shocking to be honest. The relative value of how lonely or sexually frustrated a male is increases this reason 10 fold. Many, and I have witnessed this happening, would be socially embarassed by their peers, parents, sisters, et cetera if they were caught playing the game in this manner. Others simply eschew the shame in a form of rebellion, "f- the world I do what I want, you're the one with the problem!" Some just really enjoy the erotic tease aspect while they play. Which brings me to the next reason.

Then you have the "free love, free art" crowd. They think they should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want in their games including sex mods/skimpy armors/animations/etc for reasons as varied as humor, the aforementioned perversion issues, the feeling that being turned on by video game characters is perfectly normal because it's merely a chemical process and anything bad feeling about it is simply social norms trumping their own free will, or the desire to create erotic art (yes I realize the difference between art and porn but I'd hardly call most video game mods doing this art) using the video game as a medium. This is THEIR fantasy game after all! And this is also why you get bizarro completely non-functional stuff like this:

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Because yeah man, yeah!

This brings us to the artists...

 

There are some who have a character they wish to appear in a certain trope... such as the seductress, a daedra who takes on a sexualized form, a highly attractive woman who is comfortable with her sexuality in all forms, a prostitute or courtesan, a lover who shows a bit more of herself for her man, a huntress or woman living out in the wild that wears less clothing for practicality, a dancer who shows off her form, or sexy cults such as certain Temples of Dibella.  I -get- this. It makes sense for the narrative. It reflects things in our culture while straying into the fantasy realm. In these mods not every woman is dressed to the nines as a hooker wearing makeup, noodle arms, and their model looking like a straight rip from DAZ Poser. They are using this as part of the greater story, to reflect these aspects of our humanity. I feel like this is legitimate and sometimes really good art. I also feel that this is rare.

 

Speaking of rare brings me to my last reason. That of women, and occasionally some men, who like to play dress up and will download mods and clothing for their characters that they can explore all the possibilities with. Many of these women find the lingerie aspect pretty and something they would like to wear themselves under their normal clothes to feel sexy or for their partners. They enjoy dressing up their digital dolls they have connected with due to playing long hours in a sandbox game. They don't want their characters to be frumpy, and enjoy glamming up the entire place to increase their enjoyment of the game. They want things to be pretty as possible and dammit they are going to achieve it!

 

There's a rarer subtype of women modders and mod users who fall into the just wanting the erotic titillation while playing the game aspect, and the even rarer perversion aspect (most women do not struggle with it as men do, but it's still there), and the most rare subgroup of both men and women that just want the full blown virtual sex experience.

 

 

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Now I want to clarify that I also grew up in Europe seeing all the nude art and went to art school and before that wanted to study medicine but chose art instead. I am very well versed with the nude human body (of all types, some of which you guys wouldn't want to imagine lol!). I'm comfortable with it whereas many people around me would not be. I can enjoy the artistic aspects of well placed nudity or even the erotic aspects as art. But there's an extremely fine line between erotic art and porn, which is meant to serve the baser desires, predilections, and perversions of people. There's still good stuff to be sure. I love the human body and love to see it in art, nude and fully clothed. However, it really makes me cringe to see a lot of the stuff out there.

 

I can't tell you as a modder and designer how many times I've gotten permission to use someone's work and I download the collections of models to find the most absurd clothing pieces with boob windows cut out for no real reason, chain armor (hell every armor, and clothing!) going up women's cracks, nip slips, breasts half out or pasties on as "armor", thongs, bustierres, teddies, g-strings, thin 6" and higher high heels, butts hanging out of skirts, panty shots, fully modeled and textured vaginas complete with animated bones so they can be penetrated realistically (this is even present in one of the most widely dispersed mods, the universal skeleton and HG EyeCandy female body)! It's just all getting to be a bit much, don't you think?

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Not all parts of Europe are like that though, I live in Belgium and here we have almost the same mindset regarding nudity as they do in the USA, but once you go down south where people go on vacation (Spain etc...) its a completely different story.

 

But back when I was playing Oblivion I also installed some skimpy armor mods, was about 17 years old then, now 10 years later I don't bother with that stuff anymore.

Youth and hormones... :nuke:

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... am i suffering from some sort of metal illness

"metal illness", I like that! :D

 

As for the rest, I'm as perplex as you are...

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what else is there to do in skyrim? it's certainly not the quests or the mouse1 mashing combat.

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I know that video post is old but i am new and it was so funny

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Being a Christian, I definitely have issues with this trend. Also, what woman in her right mind wants to have her stomach cut open in a fight? It's not just America either; look at your average anime series and you'll see plenty of scanty "armor".

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I have no problems with scantily clad women in my games. It's a game, it's not real life. If I can waggle my fingers and make something happen, then I'm not worried about attire. ;)

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