CentaurChester

I assume you will have to shrink the horse bodies down some? That may help some..As they are more horse like which is good. And Script dragon and SKSE both are starting to allow people to do more then basic stuff.. But this dam backup is still annoying me and I can't get anybody even look at this simple thing lol. If you Get scrip dragon and you can explore Skyrim and summon your horse anywhere you want. But yeah I swear some the caves seem be actaully smaller then what they were in Oblivion. The game is so much large to explore, but they have also taken a lot out of Skyrim that was in Oblivion. The cliping or CLT command currently in Skyrim is very buggy, At times I got stuck could not even get it to work so I could get out my stuck spot. (( Though I'm sure you know this DaMage but anybody who does not know) http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1303320-rel-script-dragon/page__st__140 <- Script dragon http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1302434-wipz-skyrim-script-extender-skse/ <- Skyrim Script Extender. Script dragon will allow you summon your horse anywhere you need them. So whenever you go off fight some dragon and or you lose your horses (which happens alot) you can quickly summon them back. I assume this was somewhat similar along with other tools you used to make/work on your mods? I'm hoping its not too much more difficult for you and everybody that has helped you.. I hope.. Anywho. if you do find that Skyrim is not as good as we all hope for contine over. I hope you'll at lest continue for oblivion.

Hey DaMage, Good to see your still alive. I am surprised just how much has come out without the tool kit yet. With Script dragon and this beta SKSE or whatever its called. I still have not found a way to get the horses to backup in Skyrim though. It naggin me like crazy Lol Like an arrow in the knee??? Rofl.. Anywho. Good to see your still alive and kickin, and I very much look forward to hopefully seeing Centaur mod in Skyrim. Quick question though: With all areas to explore. How will big workhorses body fits in some these tight places? When I was uses Script dragon which lets you summon your horses (Frost) prety much anywhere in game. was a few times I got stuck in some the caves and what not and I was asking my self.. " I wonder how DaMage going make centaur work with these tight caves "

Hey Da Mage, Sorry be replying so much, but maybe this will help I found on Nexus: Jackalheads Monster Camera Fix - Allows you play your chart as a monsters EG like a Horse. http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2294 and you can change your race to horse with "player.setrace Horse " in console. with this mod. it give better Carma angle, I assume its just Ini tweaks or something. But there is no strafe animation.. but.. You can back up as the horse.. Tho animation is wrong, At least can back up. I am guessing/hoping maybe your own ones you made for Oblivion won't be too hard to import over to skyrim,.I hope. Maybe some small tweaks and what not..I hope maybe you'd look at this other mod and it give idea/info that be helpful to you. This mod gives me hope that it would be possible to continue your centaur project in Skyrim. Hope that helps?

Your not playing Skyrim yet? Hehe.. Da Mage was going fix this in his next release, He had planned on using Slof horse mesh with Slof herself has made many fine re-mesh that showed the difference between mares and stallions, but the default skins in oblivion all showed horses as gelding.. but which not true. as we know Shadowmere is mare. Yet in Skyrim they have said Shadowmere is a He *sighs* I am hoping that DaMage and everybody that has helped with the centaur project either continue to a) work on it or b) continue to work on it for Skyrim. The problem so far is the horses in skyrim are workhorses/Draft horses. they do look, act, move better but there is no first person view while on horse, but you can tweak the ini files to get to somewhat work like oblivion. and Skyrim horses do not back up.. Grrrrr So very annoying.. It almost seems like Bethesda could not care about the horses this time in Skyrim.. I myself have been playing a lot Skyrim and adding wonderful mods over from Nexus mods there.. Once CK kit comes out for Skyrim. I am hoping this mod will be moved over to Skyrim and I actually would love to see draft centaurs.. anywho. I assume he's been busy and/or like rest of us is lost in Skyrim, lol Lets hope he comes back sometime to say hi? and that he'll continue his work on Centaur mod. For now I assume he hasn't done anymore work since the release of Skyrim.

Ok here is bit info about construction tools that I have found out.. Hopefully this will make up for my Long last post, and being way off topic? (( this from wiki/Creation_Kit Creation Kit )) " Todd Howard : suspected likely to arrive some time between November 27 and December 3, which is also the time announced for when the next Skyrim patch arrives." \ I found this just doing random Google, Random user on internet: I'm just pasting this as Info only, though most already knows this I assume. --- i have bin looking on google for the last week and a half for the skyrim creation kit, and so far i have found that many people are asking when it will be out, which is not helpful, but i have also found from my modding of oblivion that you can mod skyrim without the creation kit. if you use gimp or any other program that can open .dds files you can edit the textures of skyrim, or nifscope, nifscope you can use to edit the meshes of skyrim. if i have bin any help to you, than your welcome. also skyrims creation kit will be released after they fix one major error of skyrim, there is a loading error so not every texture looks as good as it should, this needs to be fixed for the creation kit to load textures correctly, --- Question.. Will old Oblivion mod tools some somewhat work in Skyrim? as I said my last post. Since this is same company. some thing most likly will not change much when comes to modding, yet some thing will be updated and changed right?

@Tovoklar I also miss having able talk to other NPC while on my horse or able go first person view and/able back up on them, What was Bethesda thinking? *Sighs* I wish they had left some things alone from Org Oblivion and just moved them into Skyrim. Any who not get off topic here.. I am glad that Sloft and her wonderful horse meshes have made into Skyrim, even if they are only touch ups. Her's only touch up, but I will be more looking forward to more enhance ones once Skyrim mod tools come out. Here is link to Slof's horse meshes for Skyrim, I've always liked hers more, I hope she continues make good ones too later.. Slofs Skyrim Horses So My question is, Since horses are much different then what they were in Oblivion, and once the construction tools are release.. Going from how Bethesda has done with there other games and releases over the years, I would assume even though they say Skyrim is whole new game engine. They wouldn't change to much because it would cause huge up-roar with the Modding community correct? So something even in the supposedly new-ground built up engine, Some thing would remain the same correct? Like Fallout 3, new Vegas etc etc.. I didn't play these games on my PC. Wanted too, But New Vegas was soo buggy on 360 and prob for ps3 went came out.. That was almost unplayable.. I assume now after all these years now its been patched and/or Modd community has fix it with there own tweaks/mods correct? So looking at Bethesda history, You'd think they keep some things as is and/or at lest make many things would work mostly the same way for Mod community and perhaps even few better/easier ways for mod to do them in Skyrim. We hope? so I hope DaMage can import and/or do his centaur mod with horses in Skyrim.. speaking off, Has anybody hurd from him in awhile? Maybe he fell into Skyrim and somebody should go make sure he's still alive and breathing/kicking heh.. -- Sorry bit off topic here-- You'd think that Bethesda would learn from there mistakes Eg purple horses, and make them more life like which Bethesda did. They didn't go far enough once again, Like every game company seems to do..Like Red dead redemption did/ They did do some research on horse and how they move, there muscles, colors, stats to a degree, but Then they do what ever game company does, They give few different stats but then completely ignore the rest and make all non-gender like... Yet in game they will say that " is stallion" (male) or that is mare (female) but can't even put name Stallion or mare in the text when actually get on the horse and/or have some simple reference/mesh that somewhat show that its male or not male horse, without offending somebody. Stallion are generally Stronger, Mare are usually faster.. (not always) It's funny how game companies will (sometimes) go out there way to make sure a car/truck/bike looks, acts and feel like the same thing as if was close to real, So they get the license name, and colors that comes it.. but when comes to Horses in games, most will make ONE simple mesh, then slap different colors on it, maybe put few ones with few different stats, or make all same stats. And call it horse or all stallions or all mares. If you truly think about the Elder scroll worlds. Horses would be a very huge part of that whole world including economy/community because without farms, with out the thousands different horses breed, Wouldn't the whole oblivion world never would fully evolved? They breed, use horses for almost everything in there world, Or Livestock It would be like making all humanoids all act. all same color, all be neutral gender? Anywho I'm rambling sorry. Indeed they not purple anymore, but in some ways. I think I Like horses in Oblivion more then here in skyrim.. I hope Mod Skyrim community can make or at lest put the horses back more like Oblivion like, So they still act like horses, but so there different breeds, Just like there different races in skyrim, They should do same with the horses. PS to all: I do not mean to offend,upset or tick anybody off, But when you live on farm work, and have own horses, You take pride when game has them.. Just like we do with our dogs, our cars etc etc..

I assume everybody has bough there Skyrim for either console and/or PC/Mac by now and/or has at lest had a chance to play some of the game.. If you have then you already have seen how bad the horses are, The problems I see already which may kill or make it even harder to continue this mod over to Skyrim from Oblivion. I bought PC version myself. In hoping the graphics and able add mods would be better. So far graphics have been HUGE let down. 1) there no backup for work horsee 2) all horses have same set speed/life/stamina 3) All there meshs look prety ugly, but Mesh used is prety meh. Better then purple yeah. at lest they act more horse like 4) There no first person view while on the horses 5) The horse often completely disappears when you get too close to some cliffs/rocks/trees or other objects.. Very lame, You'll see yourself floating in air riding nothing lol 6) no hoof prints in ground - and i have tried switching from med to tweaked high and still no hoof/track prints on ground/snow (minor but still every game has this ) 7) would workhorse mesh even work for centaurs. I'd love have 2500 pound stallion centaur char in Skyrim. but as we saw in oblivion. Bigger is not always better. As it make horse harder getting up/down stairs, threw doorways and what not and can play havok with camara.. I wish Skyrim just had centaurs in there as NPC's and playable race. as they are part of the Lore to it. but each game relase they seem to ignore it. Skyrim does not have that "aww" effect or the nice bloom/glow about the land when sun was shining brightly, I loved that in Oblivion, now its gone? Yeah I know that has nothing to do with Horses/Centaur mod, but was what gave the game the fantasy feel anywho sorry getting bit off topic, But I do love Skyrim, but I wonder if its even possible for the centaur mod be imported or made in Skyrim. With all these new issues. It prob wont be possible unless some these issues can be fixed by the mod or Bethsoft community. In some way I find Skyrim a bit of step down from Oblivion. feels too console ish over-all. Can any Modder reply and give his/her thoughts on this, On if Centaur mod will continue to Skyrim, stay in Oblivion? or has been killed by skyrim? I hope it has not been. P.s I am enjoy the game but there many things I miss from original Oblivion.

I do know, remember that Da Mage said he was going to use Slofs horse skins for his next version. Or at lest use a few for mod instead of using default horse mesh..Woot. heh As I hate ugly default horse colors/skins that oblivion comes with.. That ugly Black/purple one lol and poor white and browns. But just curious what did you do? I know I was messing with centaur mod and I found white skin included and I got it working for now.. Sorry get little off topic here, but I currently own beautiful black Morgan Gledding, With papers, He is so cute.. He prob only 14 hands high, I so wish I knew computer graphics, cuz I would Love to do centaur base from him as reference.. Have a look, here a picture, I hope nobody here mind but he's really cute black horse..His Name Legend My horse Legend Oh Da-Mage I was visiting my parents at farm and I took my laptop with me. I was just mesing around in oblivion and I exited out Imperial City. You know on the long hill pass the horse stables and toward long bridge. I was just jumping up and down on my centaur chart when the front part seemed start falling apart and or was stretched randomly for no reason. I don't know why I didn't notice this before. Glitch? I haven't played in long time and I haven changed anything since I first installed it.. It only do it when jump up then front parts would sheer off right off the screen before you'd land then return to normal.. Just wonder if anybody notice this too.. If somebody could check to see if does same thing on there,. let us know. if not maybe something messing up on mine or another mod. Though I know your not really working on and we're all really waiting for release of Skyrim, Which is looking really good. Anybody that hasn't been to Skyrim home page.. You should go take a look. I can't wait... http://elderscrolls.com/

Lol Really? I didn't know that. but I wouldn't doubt it. As Buggy as Oblivion is. I still love it, but when I rented Fallout La Vegas for 360. That game was full of worst glitches I have every seen.. How it even made to be solid on shelf's I never know. Any who Sorry get off topic but lets hope that Skyrim isn't glitchy at launch.

Hey Everybody. Hey DaMage.. Just wonder how your doing and if your still alive and still working on next version. I hope you have not given up on the mod yet and hope RL hasn't kept you too busy or stress out. Heh. Can you post simple message lets us know your still alive? Take it easy.. Quick question. When Skyrim is release.. Do you think there is chance maybe this mod will hopefully continue over to it? Though It's too soon to tell. but there hope