Cell 0,0 Problem

[Antiscamp]

I am having problems with my cell 0,0.

The problem is that I get NPC's falling to their deaths from the skies. Only in cell 0,0 and only NPC's that should be in outside cells all over my island. To further make this problem even more interesting, the mod works perfectly on my computer, while on my beta-playtester Tamira's system, the problem persists. She has done a clean save and all before using my latest update of my mod.

Can anyone tell me anything that might help solve it?

Tamira has kindly supplied a screenshot.

[Tamira]

Remark: not all fall to their death. Most of them stay alive and begin to wander into Dibellas Watch town to pick up their daily duty. But there are several corpses lying around on this spot when I came there, too .

[Antiscamp]

The problem will sort itself in your game eventually, since my NPC's are on respawn. That means they will eventually end up where they're supposed to be, but this problem is really annoying. I dunno why I ain't getting falling NPC's myself!?

[washington]

Lol... Who else thinks of that song while looking at screenshot?

[Antiscamp]

[Tamira]

"Dieses Video enthält Content von EMI. Es ist in deinem Land nicht verfügbar."

"This video contains content from EMI. It is not available in your country"

BTT: I tried savegames from three different characters. With two of them no raining men. With the third one person dropped down from the sky.

Meanwhile I started a completely new character. (Veeery hard in Shardville with Level 1 - I keep dying, but I keep trying).

Edited June 4, 2011 by Tamira

[Antiscamp]

Whow. How come that video ain't visible in Germany? It's just Geri Halliwell's old nineties classic. It's old like the Great Wall of China.

The Falling Men is a save-game issue for some reason. I will still be investigating it by saving my own saved games longer and comparing them to what happens. i still think there's something with cell 0,0 that I haven't discovered. In common cases a clean save seems to sort the problem.

[Meo]

Ya, that song was the first thing i thought

[Xinimator]

Funny, I don't have that problem. Just a whole bunch of khajiits seeing how far they can stretch their tails.

Edited June 4, 2011 by Xinimator

[Arthmoor]

Checked the path grids in that worldspace lately? NPCs falling from the sky sounds a lot like what was happening in Verona Bay when someone had one of their patches out of order and it messed up the path grid.

[Antiscamp]

LOL, Xinimator. I fixed that problem in this latest release. I actually gave all Khajiits and Argonians an amulet that simply hides their tails.

I'll check the Path Grid again, Arthmoor. Thanks.

[prettyfly]

It does look rather funny though; I'll give you that.

I guess a busload of skydivers all had their parachutes fail at the same time.

[InsanitySorrow]

I actually gave all Khajiits and Argonians an amulet that simply hides their tails.

No need to hide their tails, the tail stretching is easy to fix

[Antiscamp]

It does, Prettyfly. Seeing it in action is rather cool too, actually.

Thanks, InsanitySorrow. I googled the bug and found a tutorial describing that same procedure. However, I've already incorporated the missing tails into my mod's lore. All Beastfolk are required by law to hide their tails since they may cause offense to some citizens. Khajiits and Argonians are also forbidden to visit certain shops and pubs and so. It's like apartheid.

[ThomasKaira]

It does, Prettyfly. Seeing it in action is rather cool too, actually.

Thanks, InsanitySorrow. I googled the bug and found a tutorial describing that same procedure. However, I've already incorporated the missing tails into my mod's lore. All Beastfolk are required by law to hide their tails since they may cause offense to some citizens. Khajiits and Argonians are also forbidden to visit certain shops and pubs and so. It's like apartheid.

And now that you know how to fix it, this is just BEGGING for a good quest to get rid of such an unnecessary and prejudiced law.

[Antiscamp]

Oh yes. I've already set the foundations for that quest. There are two political parties on the island, the traditionalists and the reformists, and both are trying to convince the Count to sign new laws their way; either to abolish the hatred with emancipation of the beastfolk or indeed strengthen the hate-laws. Luckily, the new Count is an educated man and is leaning towards emancipation. The player's task will be to tip him over and sign the documents for that, maybe by discovering some dark secrets about the traditionalist party's plans for a coup d'etat or something similar. It will be a fun quest to write too.

[Tamira]

Well - in the past hour I tried again and again loading many different clean savegames with several different characters. Surprisingly I could not reproduce the crowds of raining people with my first char, although I encountered this bug already with version 09 and yesterday again (with a clean save) with version 10. I only could reproduce the falling of the single man (Guard Levius) with a different char. As you yourself encountered this problem already you know that I did not make this up. I suppose it is the devil in the game engine that causes things like this.

[Antiscamp]

Yeah, I seen it myself, but never with a clean save. I bet it's the devil. I will try and reproduce it when I update my mod and take a look at the savegames...

[Mysterious Mr. Bear]

leave some televani scrolls around there, perchance?