My holstered weapons are huge

[cpanda]

Sorry if this isn't the correct forum ...

 

So yea when I holster a weapon that appears on my character model it becomes huge. Well noticeably bigger. I'm at a loss. I've tried 4 different skeletons (which I assumed was the problem) I've tried XP32's, Enhanced Character Edit's, The Skeleton of Female Model's, and the Vanilla skeleton. I've gotten rid of every animation mod that I'm using;

 

360 walk and run, Momo Acrobatic Jump, yyanim MysticKnight, Immersive Animations, Pretty female Idle, Female Facial Animation, and XP32's New 2Handed Sword Animations

 

I'm not sure when this all started and have no idea what exactly is wrong.

 

my load order

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1

Skyrim Project Optimization - Dragonborn.esm=1

3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1

JSwords.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

WinterholdDestruction.esm=1

Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm=1

PC Exclusive Voice Path.ESM=1

NoTint.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=0

HighResTexturePack02.esp=0

HighResTexturePack03.esp=0

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1

Serana.esp=1

Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Rainbows.esp=1

BWS.esp=1

IceBreaker's Improved Reverb-v0.02-Cleaned.esp=1

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1

randomthunder.esp=1

SkyrimURWL.esp=1

FixCombatMusic.esp=1

PersonalizedMusic - NoVanillaMusic_v5.0.esp=1

PersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp=1

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PM_TownUniqueMusic_v1.0.esp=1

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PM_DwemerMusic_v1.0.esp=1

PM_CollegeMusic_v1.0.esp=1

PM_TownUniqueMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp=1

PM_TempleMusic_v1.0.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

TradeBarter.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

Extra Encounters.esp=1

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

Book Covers Hearthfire.esp=0

People Have Torches.esp=1

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

chesko_lorebasedloadingscreens.esp=0

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1

JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Archer's.esp=1

BloodWitchArmor.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

DDD-BardsLute.esp=1

elegantvampirearmor.esp=1

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp=1

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1

isilNarsil.esp=1

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1

ket_fang.esp=0

ket_goldbrand.esp=0

ket_umbra.esp=0

NightsWatchArmor.esp=1

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp=1

royal_daedric.esp=1

TCOSS.esp=1

theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp=1

TwoRapiers.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

UniqueBows.esp=1

3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp=1

zzTmBallGown.esp=1

Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1

betterdawnstar.esp=0

BetterRiften.esp=1

betterwinterhold.esp=0

FarviewCabin.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp=1

Markarth_plus.esp=1

markarthbookstore.esp=1

NS_Crescent.esp=1

Realcitiessolitude.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

ShezrieUTFalkreath.esp=1

ShezrieUTNightgateInn.esp=1

ShezrieUTWinterhold.esp=1

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp=1

Scale Tipper.esp=1

ArtifactOverhaul.esp=1

Better Auriels Bow.esp=1

BORGAKH1a.esp=1

ENG_Firewood_Ore_&_Ingot_weight_reduction_v1.0.esp=1

FSS-Slight pause between lines.esp=1

Headtracking.esp=1

housecarl_fem.esp=1

Marriable Serana.esp=1

masteredmagicka.esp=1

NoLeveledItemRewards.esp=1

Serana No Hood.esp=1

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp=1

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1

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ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp=1

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

Balanced_Magic.esp=1

DragonFire - Voice of the Dragon.esp=1

BFSEffects.esp=1

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1

Path of Shadows - Magic.esp=1

Path of Shadows - Alchemy.esp=1

EnchantmentOverhaul.esp=1

Enchanting Freedom.esp=1

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp=1

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Path of Shadows - Sneak Settings.esp=1

Path of Shadows - Sneak Perks.esp=1

SpeechTree.esp=1

Stealth Skills Rebalanced_LOCKPICKING.esp=1

Stealth Skills Rebalanced_PICKPOCKET.esp=1

Onehanded.esp=1

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TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

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aela2.esp=1

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BeansElves.esp=1

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Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

getSnowy.esp=1

No More Glowing Edges.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

RND_Water-Patch.esp=1

GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp=1

Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp=1

DaggerSounds4Daggers.esp=1

Kimono's Witcher Silver Sword ITA Unenchanted Version.esp=1

SGEyebrows.esp=1

SummerSolstheim.esp=1

SolstheimSkies.esp=1

The Bastard.esp=1

Raven Witch Armor.esp=1

Glimmer.esp=1

Luddemann.esp=1

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1

QuieterDogs.esp=1

Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp=1

PrvtIBearclawHelm.esp=1

EllyVoiceChange.esp=0

Duelist-Longcoat.esp=1

SwordsmansCoat.esp=1

Simple Knit.esp=1

mortenhairs.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim - BBM Update.esp=1

ArmoredSprint.esp=1

Better Windhelm.esp=1

Immersive Ivarstead.esp=0

Immersive Karthwasten.esp=1

Immersive Kynesgrove.esp=1

Immersive Falkreath.esp=1

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Immersive Dawnstar.esp=0

Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp=0

Immersive Morthal.esp=0

Immersive Stonehills.esp=1

Immersive Whiterun.esp=0

Immersive Shors stone.esp=1

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1

Immersive Riverwood.esp=0

Immersive Rorikstead.esp=0

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realcitieswhiterun.esp=1

Contractor Armor.esp=1

Mavari Armor.esp=1

NerniesWhiterun.esp=1

frea.esp=1

Sword05.esp=1

Duke Patricks - Heavy Weapons Combat.esp=1

[Hanaisse]

Define "huge" ? Pics would help anyone understand what you mean.

I see you have a few weapons mods. Is the problem with them or vanilla weapons? The vanilla weapons are a little big looking on petite female characters I've found.

[cpanda]

I actually decided to do a complete reinstall. I was frustrated because I couldn't find any threads about my particular issue. But for the sake of academia and science I'll answer your questions.

 

Huge as in when holstered my character looks like a child with an adults weapon. I couldn't judge accurately but it looked like the weapons would grow to about 2x scale. It was in the holster animation where the weapon would get bigger instantly before it was placed on the character model. Due to my lack of forthought I didn't try this with a custom race or with shields or take pictures. But the problem cropped up across both genders for new and old characters a like. Vanilla weapons were treated the exact same as modded weapons.

 

 

I will be pruning my load order and see if this issue rears it's ugly head again.

[cpanda]

Right so my fresh install didn't exactly go as planned. Everything seemed fine with just vanilla skyrim with all dlc and updated to the latest version. I played through the tutorial and the weapons looked normal. I then began installing mods and once again the problem has cropped up. But I haven't installed any recently downloaded mods .... 

 

new load order

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=0

HighResTexturePack02.esp=0

HighResTexturePack03.esp=0

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1

Serana.esp=1

Rainbows.esp=1

BWS.esp=1

IceBreaker's Improved Reverb-v0.02-Cleaned.esp=1

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1

randomthunder.esp=1

PersonalizedMusic - NoVanillaMusic_v5.0.esp=1

PersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp=1

PM_TownUniqueMusic_v1.0.esp=1

PM_TempleMusic_v1.0.esp=1

PM_TempleMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp=1

PM_DwemerMusic_v1.0.esp=1

PM_DwemerMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp=1

PM_TownUniqueMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp=1

PM_CollegeMusic_v1.0.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

TradeBarter.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

People Have Torches.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Archer's.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

elegantvampirearmor.esp=1

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp=1

ket_goldbrand.esp=0

LB_GroveMatronStaff.esp=1

Sword Master Armor.esp=1

Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1

markarthbookstore.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp=1

BORGAKH1a.esp=1

ENG_Firewood_Ore_&_Ingot_weight_reduction_v1.0.esp=1

FSS-Slight pause between lines.esp=1

Headtracking.esp=1

housecarl_fem.esp=1

masteredmagicka.esp=1

NoLeveledItemRewards.esp=1

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp=1

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1

SoundPropagationOverhaul.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp=1

SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp=1

Balanced_Magic.esp=1

Path of Shadows - Magic.esp=1

Path of Shadows - Alchemy.esp=1

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp=1

Path of Shadows - Combat.esp=0

Path of Shadows - Sneak Settings.esp=1

Path of Shadows - Sneak Perks.esp=1

SpeechTree.esp=1

Stealth Skills Rebalanced_LOCKPICKING.esp=1

Stealth Skills Rebalanced_PICKPOCKET.esp=1

Onehanded.esp=1

SGHairPack05.esp=1

SGHairPack03.esp=1

SGHairPack01.esp=1

SGHairPack06.esp=1

SGHairPack02.esp=1

SGHairPack04.esp=1

aela2.esp=1

eola1.3.esp=1

illia1e.esp=1

malecompilationv1.esp=1

mjoll1f.esp=1

njada1a.esp=1

ria1.esp=1

BeansElves.esp=1

beanshousecarlsfix.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

getSnowy.esp=1

No More Glowing Edges.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp=1

Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp=1

Dagger03.esp=1

Sword05.esp=1

DaggerSounds4Daggers.esp=1

True Thief Armor.esp=1

Contractor Armor.esp=1

Mavari Armor.esp=1

Ezuka's HentaiAclothes.esp=1

frea.esp=1

Duke Patricks - Heavy Weapons Combat.esp=1

 

 

 

I also linked some screenshots which illustrate the change

 

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr24/pandabosch/2013-07-22_00011-1.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr24/pandabosch/2013-07-22_00012-1.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr24/pandabosch/2013-07-22_00014.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr24/pandabosch/2013-07-22_00016-1.jpg

 

 

edit: the problem seems to stem from ECE ... so I guess I'll roll back to it's second newest version since I didn't notice this bug before. It's weird even if I don't install any skeletons it still resizes weapons when holstered.

Edited July 22, 2013 by cpanda

[Hanaisse]

I see nothing wrong with those pictures. That's a katana, it's long. It looks normal to me but then I've never used ECE so can't compare to see what you're seeing.

 

But, you've just learned the #1 lesson of modding; Install one mod at a time and test each time. Saves you the headache of wading through 100 mods to find which gives you a problem.

 

And welcome to TESA.

[cpanda]

Oh look a cookie! TY 

 

Yea I'm kind of reckless about my mods. I have no qualms with ripping out mods for new ones and making new characters left right and center. But with ECE you can save a characters appearance and slap it onto a new character so it never really felt like starting over. I've been using ECE for a while now months and months.

 

I believe my problem started when I updated the mod a couple days ago. Rolling back to the old version not allowing it to install skeletons exhausting all options in the package ... nothing seems to work. The difference is definitely there it's very noticeable with daggers on the back which is what brought it to my attention originally. It changes the male model as well so I'm beginning to think it's something darker and deeper than I can hope to fix. 

 

If anyone is willing to poke around the "Skeleton XP32 Back Hip Dagger" in nifscope I would be very appreciative. I opened the file but was instantly humbled with confusion. 

[cpanda]

Another shameless bump.

 

I went to the dagger node in NIFscope and transformed the scale from .9 to .6 confirmed applied and saved the file. But the changes didn't show up in game. Hmm I'm still hoping for some insight but maybe this is just one of those things that's a freak occurrence.

 

Another picture to illustrate the wonkiness of the weapon sizes.  http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr24/pandabosch/2013-07-26_00001.jpg

[Hanaisse]

Oh, I thought you solved the problem.

 

There's no other recourse but to go through each one of your mods to find the culprit. That new pic is definitely not normal.

[cpanda]

I'm positive it's Enhanced Character Edit. It took me a while because I've used for such a long time with nothing like that happening so I was getting rid of everything else first. I'm not sure what in it is causing this problem though since it doesn't seem to be the skeleton I'm at a loss.

[Hanaisse]

Have you reported this to the mod's author? Has anyone else reported similar issues?

[cpanda]

Unfortunately the mod author is not a native English speaker. They don't seem to have a presence in the mods discussion on the Nexus. I did a couple basic searches and flipped through some of the recent pages but came up with nothing relating to my problem. But I should make a post. Thank you for the continued assistance.