New PC win10 questions

[oldladyonthemoon]

Care to do some testing? Somebody on the Unity Technologies forums mentioned his computer having a test result of 145 on https://web.basemark.com/

I did the test for my computer and got 295.31. Now I have no idea what I must think about that if I cannot  compare with others' computers...

[HeyYou]

5 hours ago, ladyonthemoon said:

Care to do some testing? Somebody on the Unity Technologies forums mentioned his computer having a test result of 145 on https://web.basemark.com/

I did the test for my computer and got 295.31. Now I have no idea what I must think about that if I cannot  compare with others' computers...

Woah..... Ran the test on my machine.

AMD Phenom X4 965 Black @ 3.4ghz

8gb Ram

Nvidia GTX 1060 6gb video

Crucial MX500 SSD 250gb.

 

My rig scored 481.12 on that test.

[oldladyonthemoon]

34 minutes ago, HeyYou said:

Woah..... Ran the test on my machine.

AMD Phenom X4 965 Black @ 3.4ghz

8gb Ram

Nvidia GTX 1060 6gb video

Crucial MX500 SSD 250gb.

 

My rig scored 481.12 on that test.

Not surprising with 6 gB of vRam and a cpu @ 3.4 gHz! Mine just have 3gB of vRam and my 8 core cpu is only at ~2.6GHz...

Edited October 18, 2018 by ladyonthemoon

[donnato]

Thanks but... no. This rig is going back to the store ... too much wrong.  Instead, I found a skilled and reputable local comp. shop owner who loves building gaming rigs and has impecable creds to custom build a fig for me.  This time , I get to choose the components. I`ll Let you know what we spec out next week.

[Ashenfire]

In general, that is the way to go if you can't do it yourself.  You sound like you need an 'on the call' advisor that is in your area.

[donnato]

Yup. found one.  I`m particular about what goes in the box.

[oldladyonthemoon]

6 hours ago, donnato said:

Thanks but... no. This rig is going back to the store ... too much wrong.  Instead, I found a skilled and reputable local comp. shop owner who loves building gaming rigs and has impecable creds to custom build a fig for me.  This time , I get to choose the components. I`ll Let you know what we spec out next week.

Aw..., I hope you'll find one that suits you the best soon.

[HeyYou]

What problems are you having??

[donnato]

Appears that the MSI mobo is defective ... Which I have heard isn`t uncommon.

[Arion]

On 10/18/2018 at 10:00 AM, ladyonthemoon said:

Care to do some testing? Somebody on the Unity Technologies forums mentioned his computer having a test result of 145 on https://web.basemark.com/

I did the test for my computer and got 295.31. Now I have no idea what I must think about that if I cannot  compare with others' computers...

Wow I ran that test and I got 515.42

AMD FX 8370 Black at 4.0 Ghz

16 Gigs RAM

ASUS R9 285 w/3 Gigs Vram

Samsung EVO 512 SSD

Samsung EVO 1 TB SSD

 

Edited October 19, 2018 by Arion

[Leonardo]

The result I got surpised me a lot and I didn't thought I had 446.21 with 32 Gb RAM and three Seagate SATA (two 3 Tb and one 2 Tb).

My monitor is a Philips 24' - 1920x1080 Full HD and the video card is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti - 2 Gb GDDR5.  The CPU is an old Intel i5 2.5 Ghz.

[donnato]

Oooh cool. Hopefully I can get back involved when my new rig gets built... Maybe a week or so. I go monday to meet the builder and nail down the specs.

[_echo]

On 10/18/2018 at 7:00 AM, ladyonthemoon said:

Care to do some testing? Somebody on the Unity Technologies forums mentioned his computer having a test result of 145 on https://web.basemark.com/

I did the test for my computer and got 295.31. Now I have no idea what I must think about that if I cannot  compare with others' computers...

I got 655.58 with my secondary computer. 

i5 4690K @3.5GHz, 16GB of RAM, and a GTX 970 graphics card.

 

Now I wonder how my main computer will do...

[donnato]

Ok, something else I hadn`t  really considered in my cost or need ... the OS.  Looks like I`m stuck with 10 .. soo... Home, or Pro...??   

[oldladyonthemoon]

4 hours ago, donnato said:

Ok, something else I hadn`t  really considered in my cost or need ... the OS.  Looks like I`m stuck with 10 .. soo... Home, or Pro...??   

Linux?

You can buy a computer that have no OS installed and install W7 on them, as long as you install hardware that are compatible with it, of course.

[HeyYou]

10 hours ago, donnato said:

Ok, something else I hadn`t  really considered in my cost or need ... the OS.  Looks like I`m stuck with 10 .. soo... Home, or Pro...??   

Go with Pro. It supports more ram, and also has other features that may prove useful.

You won't find drivers for your MB for win 7.

[RabidGears]

What features of Windows 10 Pro are useful to the average person? The RAM limit would arguably be useful, eventually, if you plan to still be using it when more than 128GB becomes a thing. But the other stuff seems pretty pointless. It's not worth the extra money imho.

[Ashenfire]

I've seen pro, you have more abilitiies for managing your system; not to mention you can delay unwanted updates for a long time.  This gives you a bit more control

because you aren't nagged with unwanted spyware/updates/rearranging your computer for a long time.  You then can backup at your leisure, read up on the latest update

to know it won't kill your startup like it did with me several times.  You can then decide WHEN you update as opposed to being forced to at the MOST inconvenient times.

It seems to be useful for networking work stations as well.

It has a remote client ability.

It hase Hyper V (virtual environments).

Yes, it is supposed to be classified as a 'business' software and is generally more expensive.

What M.Soft doesn't advertise, is that the Win 10 Home is still free.  Well , that was the case for me a year ago.  I installed Win 7, found a broadcasting W10Home server, and did the upgrade for free.  It still could be an option.

[donnato]

Thanks folks... Many good points here. I could install win7 , of course , but I think ... at this point.. it would be wise to go ahead and update. It also sounds like Pro will give me more options.  I`ll bring this up at the spec meeting with the builder.

[Ashenfire]

You can also ask how 'badly' Win 7 will be missing drivers for the M.Board.   You might be surprised.

[oldladyonthemoon]

4 hours ago, Ashenfire said:

You can also ask how 'badly' Win 7 will be missing drivers for the M.Board.   You might be surprised.

Maybe you should elaborate on this.

[Ashenfire]

Windows 7 is not particullarly apart from Win 10.  Thus, asking a computer tech who is currently in the business, how bad the consequences of getting Win 7 might be.  One might be surprised that it might not be as bad as originally thought.

 

[HeyYou]

If you have a valid win 7 license key, you can use it to activate a similar version of win 10. Fresh install is best, as the upgrade from 7 to 10 does not always go as planned. You can create installation media pretty easy. (we use 8 gb USB 3.0 flash drives.) Boot from the flash drive, feed it your win 7 license key when it asks, and it will install the correct version of win 10.

Ok, I thought win 10 home was limited to 32 gb Ram. Not the case. Up to 128 gb...... I don't see anyone needing more than that any time soon. (unless you want to have your games installed to a RamDrive. That could be fun. Always wanted to try that.)

That said, I have used win 7 drivers for some items under win 10. Not sure how well that would work for newer hardware though.

[donnato]

Yup...all good questions to ask. Thanks.

[donnato]

Ok...new PC is up with win10 and mostly configured. I installed Oblivion but there is no mesh folder in my Ob/Data directory...???   Any idea why??  I started a new game and all looked good through thec intro. When I hit the jail, I quicksved out hoping that would generate what was missing in my data folder... no soap..

 

Edited December 2, 2018 by donnato